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04-26 07:24 PM
Thats exactly why we need to be against L1s. There is no numerical limit on them. Companies can pay peanuts as you just wrote.They work here for 1 year and take the job permenantly. They screw the work culture here
What work culture you are talking about.. LOL!!
Its besiness man... you are in a captlist country...
And we are here because of GLOBALIZATION...
Don't be too selfish
What work culture you are talking about.. LOL!!
Its besiness man... you are in a captlist country...
And we are here because of GLOBALIZATION...
Don't be too selfish
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willigetagc
08-14 09:33 AM
Yes, that is right, I said “plight of EB2-India”.
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as “oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years” etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to “my career is over because my gc is delayed” are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven’t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
most ridiculous argument and surprising because it is coming from a Phd. Surely, you must have defended your doctoral thesis, or did'nt you have one ? :p
The people who go for Phds should know that they are sacrificing short-term future cash flows in exchange for a far superior long-term cash flows. The others "EB3" go for a more milder but increasing series of future cash flows.
To each his own!!! But when people say that "my career is over because my gc is delayed" UNDERSTAND that they are venting their frustration. It does not mean that their career is really over.
And, like you, they will also work here as long as they like it and if not, go back...
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as “oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years” etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to “my career is over because my gc is delayed” are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven’t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
most ridiculous argument and surprising because it is coming from a Phd. Surely, you must have defended your doctoral thesis, or did'nt you have one ? :p
The people who go for Phds should know that they are sacrificing short-term future cash flows in exchange for a far superior long-term cash flows. The others "EB3" go for a more milder but increasing series of future cash flows.
To each his own!!! But when people say that "my career is over because my gc is delayed" UNDERSTAND that they are venting their frustration. It does not mean that their career is really over.
And, like you, they will also work here as long as they like it and if not, go back...
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07-26 07:35 PM
// 2006 PD filers dont worry abt spouse 485. Your PD would become available only after couple of years. My PD is Sept 2005 and I dont anticipate to get my GC within 2yrs. For reference look at the PERM data that is published, you would get a good idea. //
So, we (who are not married and PD 2006/2007 EB2) file 485 now and wait for our PD to come CURRENT again to file our spouse 485. We'll maintain our
H1B and bring her here on H4 and then wait for the PD to become CURRENT.
If she decides to go on H1 or F1, then we'll be able to invoke our EAD and change employers if needed, else what's the use even applying for 485 alone if we don't want to use the EAD at all ??
So, we (who are not married and PD 2006/2007 EB2) file 485 now and wait for our PD to come CURRENT again to file our spouse 485. We'll maintain our
H1B and bring her here on H4 and then wait for the PD to become CURRENT.
If she decides to go on H1 or F1, then we'll be able to invoke our EAD and change employers if needed, else what's the use even applying for 485 alone if we don't want to use the EAD at all ??
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01-10 11:47 AM
Hello,
The frustration that I see here is understandable, but just by being frustrated or by posting here, things do not change.
We are the change that we have been waiting for.
There are many things that IV core is working on (we see the outcomes like pending I-485 stats, notes of explanations on visa bulletins, but fail to recognize the efforts required to reach these key milestones on bringing transparency and fairness to I-140/I-485 process).
But to make IV (or any organization/community) effective, money is critical. What IV needs is not big (you can contribute as low as 25 USD per month - less than the cost of daily coffee - regular, not the fancy lattes!).
IV is nothing more than our collective will to change our situation. And the change starts from me as an individual. What I've come to realize that such change doesn't come by asking others to do something for me. It starts with me doing something, either providing my time/effort/money to the cause that I believe in.
In case of IV, some of us choose to contribute money, some choose to volunteer (hats off to them!), others choose to contribute time, still others do the legwork ... to each his own! Pick your preferred way and start... the success is not guaranteed, but if we don't start, the failure is guaranteed!
The frustration that I see here is understandable, but just by being frustrated or by posting here, things do not change.
We are the change that we have been waiting for.
There are many things that IV core is working on (we see the outcomes like pending I-485 stats, notes of explanations on visa bulletins, but fail to recognize the efforts required to reach these key milestones on bringing transparency and fairness to I-140/I-485 process).
But to make IV (or any organization/community) effective, money is critical. What IV needs is not big (you can contribute as low as 25 USD per month - less than the cost of daily coffee - regular, not the fancy lattes!).
IV is nothing more than our collective will to change our situation. And the change starts from me as an individual. What I've come to realize that such change doesn't come by asking others to do something for me. It starts with me doing something, either providing my time/effort/money to the cause that I believe in.
In case of IV, some of us choose to contribute money, some choose to volunteer (hats off to them!), others choose to contribute time, still others do the legwork ... to each his own! Pick your preferred way and start... the success is not guaranteed, but if we don't start, the failure is guaranteed!
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12-12 09:15 PM
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We can give guests only read access after verifying their immigrativeness (sorry for the innovation of word).........
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07-19 10:00 AM
As far as I know from friends who have had similar case in the past, yours is not at all an uncommon situation. My belief is that use of PO Box on physical address helps to get documents re-directed to their correct department. Absence of same means that the personnel in charge have to "think" where to re-direct and nothing more than that. Again this is based on what I know from reliable friends.
Thanks a lot for your reply
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smartboy75
09-29 01:16 AM
Hi Guru's
A strange thing happened today....Need your help ...
I have an H1 transfer pending with Nebraska Service Centre....
My earlier H1 which was approved 1 year ago has been re-opened today...This is the status I see on USCIS web-site
Application Type: I129, PETITION FOR A NONIMMIGRANT WORKER
Current Status: Case reopened or reconsidered based on USCIS determination, and the case is now pending.
We reopened this I129 PETITION FOR A NONIMMIGRANT WORKER on September 28, 2007, and are now reviewing our earlier decision. We also mailed you a notice describing the next steps in the process. Please follow any instructions on this notice. Our review should be completed within 30 days. We will notify you by mail when we make a decision or if we need something from you. If you move while this case is pending, call customer service.
I don't get this...I have the following questions
1> This H1 petition was approved 1 year ago...I have the I-797 Notice with me. Then why did they re-open this case after 1 year of approval ??
2> My I-131, I-485, I-765 applications has been accepted and chqs encashed. What happens to them now ?
3> What about my H1-transfer which is pending ??
I am going nuts....anyone in this situation
A strange thing happened today....Need your help ...
I have an H1 transfer pending with Nebraska Service Centre....
My earlier H1 which was approved 1 year ago has been re-opened today...This is the status I see on USCIS web-site
Application Type: I129, PETITION FOR A NONIMMIGRANT WORKER
Current Status: Case reopened or reconsidered based on USCIS determination, and the case is now pending.
We reopened this I129 PETITION FOR A NONIMMIGRANT WORKER on September 28, 2007, and are now reviewing our earlier decision. We also mailed you a notice describing the next steps in the process. Please follow any instructions on this notice. Our review should be completed within 30 days. We will notify you by mail when we make a decision or if we need something from you. If you move while this case is pending, call customer service.
I don't get this...I have the following questions
1> This H1 petition was approved 1 year ago...I have the I-797 Notice with me. Then why did they re-open this case after 1 year of approval ??
2> My I-131, I-485, I-765 applications has been accepted and chqs encashed. What happens to them now ?
3> What about my H1-transfer which is pending ??
I am going nuts....anyone in this situation
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hebbar77
05-20 12:58 PM
How about a IV visitor health/medical insurance?
Because of the numbers premium will be damn cheap I am sure!
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07-17 04:30 PM
I don't know why but we tend to be satisfied with lsmall benefits...
I agree with you "something (EAD and AP) is better than nothing"
But i bet you ..you will find your self in the same situation of agony and endless waiting for the final Green card.
I bet most of the people don't use your ead and AP as it puts you in a gray "Adjustment of status". They are good to have though. But you will see...how painful it is to decide to use them or not..
What i want to say is that being able to apply for EAD and AP is not the end of the battle..you will be stuck in a depressing situation waiting for the final green card.How do i know? .. I went through it...waiting for GC for the past 4 years.
I dont know its FBI or its just the USCIS incompetence but waiting in the final stage is horrible. Every time you travel you are scared...AP as for as my lawyer goes IT does not guarantee 100% entry in to the country.
After you apply for AP its only 1 year H1 increments.
What i am saying why dont we try for the overall improvement of the GC processing. Why dont we be firm about not wasting the GC numbers and recapturing the unused numbers.
We had a small revolt (peaceful way) and its successful.We dont want to stop there.
LETS FIGHT FOR THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENT OF THE GC PROCESSING
I hope you guys are with me..looking for your comments
I am wondering about the same question. Recently, I read about the portability rules and they are so unspecific that I am not sure I want to take advantage of them. Not even Mr. Shusterman could give an assertive answer in his Q&A session (http://immigration.about.com/library/weekly/aa012902b.htm). He said you should not renounce your job two days after the 180 have passed, but when is the right time? I am getting more and more confused and depressed about this whole situation and about finding the right moment to decide whether I still want this.
I agree with you "something (EAD and AP) is better than nothing"
But i bet you ..you will find your self in the same situation of agony and endless waiting for the final Green card.
I bet most of the people don't use your ead and AP as it puts you in a gray "Adjustment of status". They are good to have though. But you will see...how painful it is to decide to use them or not..
What i want to say is that being able to apply for EAD and AP is not the end of the battle..you will be stuck in a depressing situation waiting for the final green card.How do i know? .. I went through it...waiting for GC for the past 4 years.
I dont know its FBI or its just the USCIS incompetence but waiting in the final stage is horrible. Every time you travel you are scared...AP as for as my lawyer goes IT does not guarantee 100% entry in to the country.
After you apply for AP its only 1 year H1 increments.
What i am saying why dont we try for the overall improvement of the GC processing. Why dont we be firm about not wasting the GC numbers and recapturing the unused numbers.
We had a small revolt (peaceful way) and its successful.We dont want to stop there.
LETS FIGHT FOR THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENT OF THE GC PROCESSING
I hope you guys are with me..looking for your comments
I am wondering about the same question. Recently, I read about the portability rules and they are so unspecific that I am not sure I want to take advantage of them. Not even Mr. Shusterman could give an assertive answer in his Q&A session (http://immigration.about.com/library/weekly/aa012902b.htm). He said you should not renounce your job two days after the 180 have passed, but when is the right time? I am getting more and more confused and depressed about this whole situation and about finding the right moment to decide whether I still want this.
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jambapamba
07-10 10:11 PM
1. to keep a log
2. To report the number of cases worked upon
3. To keep track of the applicants as when its refiled, it should have yes for "Did you ever apply adjustment of status before". If its "No", its a lie and its rejected again.
why would they spend time in entering the data in the system if any way they going to reject it...
2. To report the number of cases worked upon
3. To keep track of the applicants as when its refiled, it should have yes for "Did you ever apply adjustment of status before". If its "No", its a lie and its rejected again.
why would they spend time in entering the data in the system if any way they going to reject it...
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01-14 02:39 PM
filed a WoM (writ of Mandamus) in New York..what a joke..FBI Name check delay for 5 years !!!!
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08-09 05:25 PM
Wooooooooohoooooooooooooo...
I received a sms saying that my case status has been updated (weird they sent it @ 9:25 pm PT). I was like here comes another biometrics appointment... but still let's check the status online. To my surprise and by god's grace, case status was changed to "Card/Document Production" (still cannot believe it). I dunno what triggered this but i did contact my Congressman yesterday. My wife's status has also changed to "decision" - should move to "Card production" soon.
My suggestion to all of you - please don't lose patience and do whatever you can from your end to expedite your case. It's your GC and you've to make sure you get it. Contact I/O, infopass and congressman/senator. Don't expect anything from your lawyers as they only care about money and it is in their best interest to see your case pending (more RFEs, EADs, APs, etc).
Thanks and all the best to all of you out there still waiting for your GC.
Praky
Congratulations and best of luck to you on this new journey. I was looking through forums today and saw that I have exactly the same issue as you. (even the email text was identical to what you posted). Can you please inform how you spoke to second level IO?
I plan to contact local congresswoman as well, was there a letter or something you faxed over to them?
Appreciate the guidance, thank you
I received a sms saying that my case status has been updated (weird they sent it @ 9:25 pm PT). I was like here comes another biometrics appointment... but still let's check the status online. To my surprise and by god's grace, case status was changed to "Card/Document Production" (still cannot believe it). I dunno what triggered this but i did contact my Congressman yesterday. My wife's status has also changed to "decision" - should move to "Card production" soon.
My suggestion to all of you - please don't lose patience and do whatever you can from your end to expedite your case. It's your GC and you've to make sure you get it. Contact I/O, infopass and congressman/senator. Don't expect anything from your lawyers as they only care about money and it is in their best interest to see your case pending (more RFEs, EADs, APs, etc).
Thanks and all the best to all of you out there still waiting for your GC.
Praky
Congratulations and best of luck to you on this new journey. I was looking through forums today and saw that I have exactly the same issue as you. (even the email text was identical to what you posted). Can you please inform how you spoke to second level IO?
I plan to contact local congresswoman as well, was there a letter or something you faxed over to them?
Appreciate the guidance, thank you
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10-02 12:41 PM
Hi smartboy75/prince7,
Any updates?
I checked my former approved H1Bs and found:
1) The Sept. 2000 approved H1B with LUD of June 2007
2) The Feb.2003 approved H1B with LUD 0f April 2006
For both cases, it seems the status is the same as when it was approved in Sept. 2000 and Feb. 2003, nothing new. Maybe these are automatic updates by the computer system.
Any updates?
I checked my former approved H1Bs and found:
1) The Sept. 2000 approved H1B with LUD of June 2007
2) The Feb.2003 approved H1B with LUD 0f April 2006
For both cases, it seems the status is the same as when it was approved in Sept. 2000 and Feb. 2003, nothing new. Maybe these are automatic updates by the computer system.
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12-12 10:16 PM
Excuse my cynicism, but that hasn't quite worked out with the crowd in question (so far... ), has it? :)
Context: the highlighted part in your quote...
jazz
We already have chapters as the first and foremost source of valuable information. Once someone becomes involved and committed, they will signup for monthly contributions themselves. If we have enough of that to guarantee a decent source of recurring income like 20 40 k or whatevr, I dont see the need to deprive some depressed soul surfing the net looking for some reassuring information from having to goto bed in peace.
Context: the highlighted part in your quote...
jazz
We already have chapters as the first and foremost source of valuable information. Once someone becomes involved and committed, they will signup for monthly contributions themselves. If we have enough of that to guarantee a decent source of recurring income like 20 40 k or whatevr, I dont see the need to deprive some depressed soul surfing the net looking for some reassuring information from having to goto bed in peace.
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05-14 10:23 PM
[Mr. Brown] True. If the plan B/C is not up to par with plan A then it is definitely hard to move on. Plan A (GC) gives you a grand standard of living but Plan B (India etc.) gives you a first class citizenship plus a say in the society. It's not all bad.
[harikris] Plan B/C comes into play when plan A is logically terminated. That is not the case here Mr. Brown. The process should be fast enough not to allow a life changing event to weigh in on any individual to continue with an initially chosen plan or to abandon it.
[Mr. Brown] Given the passage of time priorities/drive should be geared more towards securing and making the best of what you have (home country's citizenship) rather than what you don't have (GC). Heck, even retirement based mutual funds work in that fashion (aggressive at first, conservative as time passes).
[harikris] Going by your analogy, most "young" folks do play it aggressive(risky) by following up on their dreams and when it is time to consolidate/secure, they are facing uncertainties that are not quite under their control. I can assure you that all their efforts are indeed geared up towards securing what they have worked so hard for all along. I am assuming home country's citizenship and social circles are a given and no extra-ordinary effort needs to be applied in those sectors.
[Mr. Brown] No offense but it comes out a bit narcissist like ... don't ya think?
[harikris] No Sir. I don't believe for a second that i am asking more than what i paid for or entitled to.
[Mr. Brown] See now ... everyone keeps talking about this deal that USCIS promised us. Either my lawyer didn't give me the fine print (where the time frame was mentioned) or USCIS doesn't promise a time frame to every applicant.
[harikris] I am referring to the statements that USCIS/legislators make when they come up with yet another innovative method to overhaul the system to speed up the process and efficiently tackle the existing backlog within a pre-set target date. We have to take their word for it, if we are to have any solid grounds for making a case against backlogs. We got to STOP taking their statements with a "pinch of salt" and "wink-wink" fashion because that would mean we have lost the fight even before we enter the field. We got to "help" USCIS and work with them so that they can help us.
[Mr. Brown] You nailed it. I completely agree with you and guess what this arrogance from USCIS will come back to bite them but it will be too late. How do you think empires that rule for centuries crumble in a few years? Empathy (or lack-thereof) can bring one down to their knees.
[harikris] Thanks. We surely don't want to wish the vehicle [USCIS] that is supposed to take us to our "destination" to crash fatally. Let's strive to put USCIS back on track.
[Mr. Brown] Nothing. As second class citizens (GC/USC or not) we don't have a say in this society. We give some to get some.
[harikris] Please, do what you can. Don't resign to such thoughts. Let's come up with a solution. There is no merit sitting idle. Let's start knocking doors in all earnest and some door should open for sure.
[harikris] Plan B/C comes into play when plan A is logically terminated. That is not the case here Mr. Brown. The process should be fast enough not to allow a life changing event to weigh in on any individual to continue with an initially chosen plan or to abandon it.
[Mr. Brown] Given the passage of time priorities/drive should be geared more towards securing and making the best of what you have (home country's citizenship) rather than what you don't have (GC). Heck, even retirement based mutual funds work in that fashion (aggressive at first, conservative as time passes).
[harikris] Going by your analogy, most "young" folks do play it aggressive(risky) by following up on their dreams and when it is time to consolidate/secure, they are facing uncertainties that are not quite under their control. I can assure you that all their efforts are indeed geared up towards securing what they have worked so hard for all along. I am assuming home country's citizenship and social circles are a given and no extra-ordinary effort needs to be applied in those sectors.
[Mr. Brown] No offense but it comes out a bit narcissist like ... don't ya think?
[harikris] No Sir. I don't believe for a second that i am asking more than what i paid for or entitled to.
[Mr. Brown] See now ... everyone keeps talking about this deal that USCIS promised us. Either my lawyer didn't give me the fine print (where the time frame was mentioned) or USCIS doesn't promise a time frame to every applicant.
[harikris] I am referring to the statements that USCIS/legislators make when they come up with yet another innovative method to overhaul the system to speed up the process and efficiently tackle the existing backlog within a pre-set target date. We have to take their word for it, if we are to have any solid grounds for making a case against backlogs. We got to STOP taking their statements with a "pinch of salt" and "wink-wink" fashion because that would mean we have lost the fight even before we enter the field. We got to "help" USCIS and work with them so that they can help us.
[Mr. Brown] You nailed it. I completely agree with you and guess what this arrogance from USCIS will come back to bite them but it will be too late. How do you think empires that rule for centuries crumble in a few years? Empathy (or lack-thereof) can bring one down to their knees.
[harikris] Thanks. We surely don't want to wish the vehicle [USCIS] that is supposed to take us to our "destination" to crash fatally. Let's strive to put USCIS back on track.
[Mr. Brown] Nothing. As second class citizens (GC/USC or not) we don't have a say in this society. We give some to get some.
[harikris] Please, do what you can. Don't resign to such thoughts. Let's come up with a solution. There is no merit sitting idle. Let's start knocking doors in all earnest and some door should open for sure.
pappu
06-14 11:26 AM
Are you sure your namecheck is pending? How?
Do you have any written proof?
If there is no arrest record or any suspicious item in your application, your application may have been picked up randomly for interview. IV had worked on Namecheck issue in the past and namechecks should not be taking more than 6 months except very very few cases.
Do you have any written proof?
If there is no arrest record or any suspicious item in your application, your application may have been picked up randomly for interview. IV had worked on Namecheck issue in the past and namechecks should not be taking more than 6 months except very very few cases.
mbartosik
07-19 09:52 AM
it need not just a few very good core team members,
what is needed is a weight of slightly good, active and contributing, masses.
It is bad to rely on a few doing a lot, more need to do just a little more.
what is needed is a weight of slightly good, active and contributing, masses.
It is bad to rely on a few doing a lot, more need to do just a little more.
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